S1E7: Anti-aging Skincare w/ Chelsea Brown
In this episode, I talk to Chelsea Brown. She's a Cosmetic Nurse Injector, and we chat about the effects that aging and stress can have on our skin—and how to keep glowing from the inside out.
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Tish (00:00):
Welcome to strong bodies by Tish podcast. I am so excited that I finally have this podcast on this platform to share my experiences with you 30 years of experience. I love to talk. I love to share my stories through this podcast. I hope we get inspired, motivated to live a happier, healthier life. Please enjoy. This podcast is sponsored by strong bodies by Tish, you can find out more about my program on my website, train with tisch.com or you can check out the link below and try my seven days of training for free. Well, you'll get a better idea of my style, my concepts and the way I love to train my clients.
Tish (00:48):
Hi, beautiful lady. Hello. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm very well thank you so much for giving me. I know today is your day off and you've made a trip to the clinic just so you could do this plot podcast. You are one busy woman so thank you so much for giving me your time. For those of you who are listening, this is Chelsea, she is part owner at the Cannes not Kensington. That's the Calgary location, the Kelowna location in like basically right downtown Kelowna in the heart of it all right off the lake. It's a beautiful location, a beautiful clinic. I mean, they're both beautiful, but the one in Kelowna is just absolutely beautiful. So congratulations on that. Now. Are you in Kelowna? Full time now. Are you still going? Back and forth Chelsea.
Chelsea (01:42):
I'm in Kelowna full time now. Yeah, I made the jump about a year ago and things are so busy here that you just needed me here a little bit more. So I'm here and I love it here, the lifestyles of amazing colonias. Beautiful. I'm so glad you joined me jump ship with so much fun here.
Tish (02:01):
Yeah, it's great. I mean, you when you say lifestyle, that's exactly what I think too. It's just a little slower paced. Mountain biking, hiking the water, obviously it is just a beautiful lifestyle. So I agree and it's sunny and a beautiful blue sky. Now an hour later it was down before it was a huge hurricane in a rainstorm. So it's nice to see the sun shining through. So Chelsea, before we get started, because I know there's so many things that I want to talk to you about. I have so many women that will appreciate this conversation. But before we get ahead and talk about it, I want you to just tell me a little bit about who you are, and how you got into this industry, how long you've been doing it, just so people can kind of understand all of the stuff that you can bring to the conversation today.
Chelsea (02:54):
Yeah, for sure. So I'm Chelsea Brown. I'm a cosmetic nurse injector and part owner of the clinic here and our online store goes into aging shop.com. I got into the industry. I started in addictions and mental health as an RN and I love that job. But I just started to feel like I was wanting to be more creative and have a little more control of what I was doing. And Christy Gates who we both know in Calgary was actually treating me and doing my Botox. And back then this was like four years ago now and there weren't a lot of nurse injectors at that time. It was kind of newer, they've never covered it in nursing school. And I approached her and was like, I feel really good like what do I have to do? And she was like, okay, there's a lot that goes into this, you have to go take a course. So I went to the Ubay, got my full injectable training, and then I came back to glow and was like, please hire me. And they were like, Okay, fine. So that was four years ago now. And yeah, now I'm here in Kelowna and a part owner so it's been amazing. I'm really lucky.
Tish (04:02):
Awesome. Now. You also were on you're probably gonna be mad at me for saying this, but I didn't know this actually. But someone told me this just recently you are on The Bachelorette Canada where you are bachelor bachelor candidates.
Chelsea (04:18):
Yeah, it was funny because it was around the same time that I actually started to glow like I just made. I had a year of saying yes to everything and just like trying everything. And so I started to glow and then was like, by the way, I need to take a couple months. I'm gonna go to the show. And somehow Carrie was like, do what you want. But it was a really good experience. So I'm really glad I did it.
Tish (04:41):
Yeah, that is very cool. I will definitely have you on again to talk about that because I'm sure there's some amazing stories to say. And I should mention Carrie as well. Carrie is also an owner of glow both in Calgary and in Kelowna and every single person That works. They're both in the Calgary and the Kelowna location, and have said nothing but incredible positive things about Carrie. And my experience with Carrie obviously is great. I used to train her a little bit with her and her daughter, but just conversations on the phone about fitness and health and my skin. And she's just been incredibly generous to me. I know that there's so many people that absolutely love her. And so part of why I wanted to do this was to bring more awareness to sort of the whole industry, because I think it's now becoming a lot more. We're feeling more comfortable about expressing and being open with what we're doing about cosmetic surgery. And I think before even like five or six years ago it was a major, like a secret faux pas. No one wanted to be open about it.
Tish (05:59):
But I think it's really important, especially for women who are getting older, to be open and honest about exactly what they're doing. And it also gives other people the confidence to maybe try some stuff because I'm all for doing what makes you happy. And if a little bit of Botox or filler, or a boob job is going to make you happy, go for it, we should absolutely have no judgement at all about that. And I think creating awareness about it and sharing your stories amongst other women, especially women, getting to my age or approaching my age, I think it's important. And the second reason is because I wanted to make sure that I do my very best to let everyone know how incredible glow anti aging is. From the management to the owners to the employers. It is the best in my opinion. Now I have been to several not in Kelowna, but probably all over in Calgary. They're all great, but my best experiences, not just customer service. comfortable feeling comfortable is a very uneasy thing to go in and you don't have people sticking needles in your face and doing other things.
Tish (07:10):
It's just a very intimidating thing. I've always felt very welcome, very loved, very nurtured. And of course the results have been incredible. So those are the two reasons why I wanted to showcase glow anti aging, and if for any of those women that are out there, not sure about it, or aren't completely happy with what they're doing or just needing a change. I 100% From the bottom of my heart would recommend glow anti aging in Calgary and Kelowna it is absolutely worth there's it's a little bit of a wait, I was just complaining to to Chelsea before we came on this podcast that I called a week ago for my appointment and still have three more weeks to wait. But with patience, I will obviously be able to see you. So sometimes you just have to wait for the best and it is completely worth the wait. So I was just giving her shit. Maybe trying to like, get in there a little earlier probably won't work. But you know, oh, nudge. But anyway, so those are the two reasons why I wanted to have you on Chelsea. So thank you so much. Now, the first thing I want to talk about is aging skin.
Tish (08:30):
So the point in talking about aging skin is that there is a difference between your skin and my skin. I'm approaching 50 and have just turned 47. I'm very comfortable with it. I'm having more and more people ask me my age. In fact, I probably had 10 people over the last two days through Instagram asking me my age, and it doesn't offend me. I think it's funny. I think it's rude. It shouldn't matter my age because of course we have a chronological age and a biological age and they're completely different depending on your habits and your lifestyle. But the aging thing is definitely something that I want to talk about with you. And first of all, I wanted to ask you, what are the main differences between say someone in their 20s and 30s versus someone in their 40s and 50s coming to see you? Are there differences? Are there certain things that people could do or women and men for you? There's a ton more men coming and doing this I noticed that you were on a podcast talking about it with a man that had just finished an appointment with you. So just basically, what are the differences? How would you treat them? And? Yeah, let's just start from there, I guess.
Chelsea (10:11):
Yeah, absolutely. So the main differences are basically with collagen and elastin. So as we age, we lose a certain percentage of that every year after about 25. So after that, you're kind of done, and you need something to re-stimulate that to keep up with your baseline. So that's one of the main differences. Another one is oil production. So that's why women start to feel a little more dry as they age because your oil glands don't pump out the oil that they used to. So that's another key component. And then lastly, fat. So as we age, a lot of our facial fat tends to shrink, get a little smaller. And that's where I come in with filler is to plump those backups. So a lot of us, when we were in our 20s, had these big, beautiful cheeks. And then as we age, we start to feel things kind of shrinking, falling. And that's where filler can come in, and really help too. So those three components, I guess, collagen and elastin that an oil production would be the three biggest things that are the differences.
Tish (11:17):
Yeah, and those are the three things that I definitely have noticed over the last decade for sure. I have absolutely no oily skin. I cannot put enough moisture in my skin. So I definitely feel that although not as bad now they've been cologne. I don't know, maybe that's my imagination.
Chelsea (11:35):
You can have hydrated skin in Calgary, Alberta, you can turn skin anywhere.
Tish (11:40):
Yeah, I think that is definitely a thing. You know, when you travel to places like Vancouver or Hawaii, where there's a lot of humidity you feel or a new look 10 years younger, just by getting off the plane. It's been crazy. So there are incredible products, which we will get into as well, because I want you. I want your expert opinion on what you would recommend for those sorts of things. But for sure, Now, my question is, is there a certain age that you recommend people start using Botox filler? Now the reason why I asked you this is because I didn't start anything until I was in my 40s. So I'm 47 now so the last seven years is really the only time that I started doing this. And when I was in my mid 30s, I was at a wedding with you know, you're in a wedding, you sit in a group of people that you don't know. I was sitting beside a couple and they were quite younger, though quite a bit younger than me. And not that much younger than Neil. So Neil is six years younger than me.
Tish (12:43):
I know, no one will believe it. I look way younger than him. But yes, he is six years younger than me, 15 years more mature than I am, but probably looks about my age because of his gray hair. And the amount of stress that he's dealt with over the last 20 years of being an investment banker. So that ages you for sure. But we were having a conversation with this really young couple, I would say they're probably so if I was like 35-36, they were late 20s. And they were talking to me about Botox and filler in their late 20s. And, I was just shocked. The male, the husband was actually a personal trainer, and the wife was an investment banker. So kind of funny roles were reversed. And we got talking and both of them were already doing everything. They looked great there. They didn't look, how sometimes it's a little over done, especially in those celebrities in the LA I was just talking to someone yesterday about who does their injections, because it's just absolutely scary what some of these celebrities are looking like, but that's just my opinion. But they looked great. They looked just fantastic. Awake, fresh.
Tish (14:01):
I mean, of course they look young, they were young, but they were absolutely shocked that at my age, you know, mid 30s that I had not even thought about Botox. They said well, it's preventative, and I had never even heard about Botox being preventative. And I thought it was kind of just a silly thing and ignored them and just carried on with my life. And then in my 40s I thought okay, well maybe I should go and talk to someone. And that's when I met Christy, and did a consultation and the rest is history. So is there a certain age or time that you would start recommending this stuff? Or is it too late when you get to my age because I do feel that and we'll talk about this too. When I get it because of my metabolism. I really want to talk about all this. I feel like I just go through it so quickly. It has to do with the fact that I started too late or later than most people and so on. My first question to you because I'm rambling on and on, would you recommend? What is the age that you would recommend? Or does it really depend on each individual?
Chelsea (15:11):
Yeah, I always tell people, it's gonna be different for everybody. Like you said, there's a chronological age and a biological age. So like to say that everyone needs to be in hair, when they're 20 years old, just isn't really fair. With women, I like to tell them specifically with Botox, it's, we have a nice kind of marker where, once you start applying makeup and things are creasing, I find that's the best time. So women will cook, that's honestly, their first complaint almost always Is there something you can do about this, because when I apply my makeup, and then I start moving, things are starting to crease, I always tell them, that's a perfect time to come in. It doesn't have to be a big bill, you can do a small amount just to keep things nice and smooth for your application of your makeup. And usually I see women like 25 to 30 if they're like aware of what we can do, and they're into this world, and that's kind of around the age that I see.
Chelsea (16:09):
Yeah, I guess and for men, men are different. They're definitely a little bit later to the game, which is totally fine. I find that either their wives bring them in or their wives will tell them when they need to come, which is awesome. Or do they start to feel particularly their crow's feet. Men love to be big and smiley, but that's where everyone looks at you in the iron kind of way and can tell that something's going on. So they typically come in and go like, Can you do something about this? I just feel old in my eyes. And that's, and then they're later I'd probably like, you know, 35 to 40 is the earliest I would see most men, but wow, like the earlier the better in a sense, because it is preventative. So any motion that you see in your face, while you're expressing if you don't treat those muscles, eventually, any lines that you see in motion will just be there rest without treatment. So treating any motion that you have just prevents those from becoming either deeper or permanent as you age.
Tish (17:13):
Well, I did not know that. And is it true that metabolism plays a role? I've heard so many conflicting opinions about that topic.
Chelsea (17:25):
There are so many factors that go into this that I think a lot of people don't understand. There's not only just like your metabolism being active stress is huge stress levels, hydration, hormones, there's so many different things that can affect the metabolism of Botox. For most people, if they are struggling with one form of a neuromodulator, which is Botox, there's actually four other options, which are Dysport, Xeomin, and new Siba. And those are basically just different. They're the same molecule. So it's the same, it's like Pepsi and Coke kind of thing, just different brands, but their protein that they're encapsulated in is a little bit different. So sometimes the body just needs a little bit of a mix. Like you know how with training, you're always keeping the body guessing to like tweak different muscles, it's the same with your modulators. So some patients come in and they've been struggling to get their Botox to last longer than three months. And we'll switch them to Dysport for a little while and then might switch the back. So that's another good option for people who are struggling with that.
Tish (18:34):
Yeah, that's what Christie did. A couple years ago, I was feeling a bit frustrated that I just learned over the last few years to let a lot of it go. I think it is difficult sometimes because when you are so I'm going to be completely honest, for real, completely honest here. There have been times in my life where I've really struggled with seeing changes in my face. I would say that I am more disciplined with my health and I really picked that up over the last three to four months. I've really just gone from being healthy to really upped that even more. I feel even younger and even more energetic and I have more of a clarity in my mind and I believe honestly it's it's because I've fine tuned some of these little habits that have made a huge difference in my life and become more and more comfortable with I was getting my hair done the other day and I could see as I was talking it and you look at yourself and you're looking at your hairdresser through the mirror, I can see every single frown and every single thing and I think a couple years ago I would have bought More, but I'm getting a lot more comfortable and embracing it. But if there are things that I can do to preserve what I can without changing the look of my face.
Tish (20:12):
Now, that was another thing I wanted to ask you. I touched upon it talking about this whole celebrity thing. What is it that creates that you've gone too far? And how do you decide as a nurse? And how do you because it's addictive, I have had several, on several occasions, gone to you or Christie? And said, I'd like a little bit more on my lips? Or, could you do a little bit here. And both of you have said on several occasions, you're good, now you're good. In fact, you go, you do more, you're going to look older. So how as an injector? Do you look at someone's face? And it's hard because I'm guessing the more you put in someone's face, the more the clinic would make. So there's a fine balance between you owning a business, but also making sure that people are leaving, representing your state, your clinic, our studio, I guess you'd call it as well, the best way possible, because just like just like you, my clients are my walking advertisements, if they are looking strong and fit, I look good, same thing would go for you.
Tish (21:22):
So how do you find that balance between, keeping your clients happy, but also making sure that they're not overdoing, because there is a very fine line between that and I've really taken a step back over the last few months and reevaluated sort of what I was trying to do versus what's really, like, there's only so much Botox and filler can do. Right. And so how do you decide as a professional in this industry to find that balance? I think it would be hard.
Chelsea (21:56):
Yeah, I mean, what the whole reason I actually got into the industry initially was because as a younger person, I probably got my first Botox treatment at 23. And I found there was a missing component, and that was customer service. So back then, when I walked into a derms office, it was a very older gentleman telling me exactly what he was willing or not willing to do. And that was it. And it was like, there was no conversation, there was no like, he didn't understand, he didn't even ask me what look I wanted, what beauty trends I was into, there was just no concept of customer service at all, it felt very much like a health care appointment. And I was like, this is odd to me, like this part has to change. And that's when I was so excited to find glow, because they were very much on board with that there has to be this like, this fine balance of the two of being safe and being ethical, and also providing someone with a service that that they want and that they feel control of and that it's a bit of a, that we have a mutual goal together. And that's what's going to make our customers the most happy.
Chelsea (23:07):
So it's interesting, because a lot of people that I find that do go overboard, they will find a yes, somewhere. So it's not necessarily that I've even ever treated them or they've come into the door. And I've said no, and they come in again. I say no again, but they've had more filler somewhere. So people like that. Unfortunately, despite all of our efforts, they will find a yes, somewhere someone is willing to do it. It's not going to be us, but someone's going to be willing to do it. And that money to me is never worth it. That doesn't give me any satisfaction. There are plenty of other ways that we make money other than having people in an unsafe situation one like too much filler in a certain area can literally impede blood flow to the face and cause some pretty serious side effects.
Chelsea (24:03):
So that's always an easy out for me is when I literally look at someone and I'm like, look safe, like safety and ethically I just can't perform this for you. I wouldn't feel good about it. I wouldn't sleep at night. They're usually understanding. And I always try to remind people like even as you were saying, like looking in the mirror. We never, I don't think ever really see a true representation of ourselves. Like we never know what other people really see, our mirrors are just, you know, a reflection of whatever we have going on in our head at the moment. And even like watching this now on this screen, it's like that version of me I haven't even.
Tish (24:43):
I'm just sitting here staring at you going you're so pretty. You're perfect.
Chelsea (24:52):
So it's like and I think a lot of people also struggle with even taking advice from someone like me, which has been interesting. Like, I'm 30 years old. And even though I studied the aging process for like four years, it's been like my whole life is just understanding how aging affects women, it can come off as offensive when I'm telling them what they should or shouldn't do, because they kind of look at me and are just like, you haven't been there. And I totally get that. But none of us are escaping it. And that's what I always try to remind them is like, this is coming down the path for me too. I'm not there yet. But look at all the wisdom and all the breakups and all this took me through like a girl. I'd rather be there at this point, honestly, like, so it's that none of us are ever escaping this process. So it's just making it a little bit easier, making it so that you're a little more in control of what that looks like for you. And when you want to stop. And like when there's things you can live with. And when things you can do, that's what we're here for is just to make it so that you can move on with your life and just think about other things.
Tish (26:01):
That's Yes, I love that. You know, it's so true. I spoke about this in another podcast is I think women in general are more comfortable with ageing, when they're taking care of themselves, that it's the women that they know or are not doing what they should be that are really struggling with the fact that they are creeping into their 40s and 50s and, and the Botox filler cosmetic surgery world I think really is just another way for us to feel better about ourselves in a positive manner. And I think that it's just so important and that's what I talked to you about. I said to you, when I moved here, when we just started getting to know each other I remember saying are you comfortable, because I see all of your posts, and they're all of these beautiful, young girls that are literally exact, they look exactly like you they're perfect, they're beautiful, everything about them is incredible. And there's some just some incredibly beautiful people in this world it's an you get to showcase them and make them even more comfortable in their skin, which is such a powerful thing and such a lucky like you're so lucky to have that opportunity because you do leave that clinic always I do speaking from experience leaving that clinic after seeing you feeling just better, more excited.
Tish (27:29):
And just the support and nurturing that you provide to the ladies and the gentlemen that come and see you is just so much appreciated. But my whole point in this was that I feel like I remember what I was gonna say when I asked you I said Are you do you? Do you do women? Like do you inject women in my life at my age? Because I just don't see you posting women my age and I I wasn't that I wasn't I wasn't comfortable with you putting Botox and filler in my face because Christy's younger as well. It's not that I just saw there was just so much young youthfulness on your page. And I'm different, I have very, like, no Temples. I'm different, skin different than yeah. I can work on it. And it's I'm so it's amazing what a little bit of filler in the temples best could be completely honest with you. But I and you said to me, Tish, there's I treat so many women in their 40s and 50s.
Tish (28:48):
They're just not comfortable with sharing that they're doing this and I was shocked by that because this is the time when we should be doing it. We have more money, usually, hopefully. And we should have more confidence in our 40s and 50s. To say, Yeah, I'm not happy with this. I don't like how my temples are looking like peanuts and I'm okay to share that. So I found that very interesting. And that is why I think it's just so I don't have a huge platform, but I have a big enough platform to share that. Just share my experiences with it. And I do wish that I started younger. I really do. I think that it would have helped me just because I do really struggle with going through it and how my peanut face and all that stuff. I do wish I thought that if I had started earlier, it may have helped. I don't know.
Tish (29:47):
But I think it's really important that we stop judging people for wanting to just feel better about themselves. Right. My question to you is like I don't. I've never experienced it. Acne. But I know there's a lot of women that struggle with acne, not just young women, but women in their 40s. And I think actually, I saw a post when you post it up before and after your skin and how much it has transformed. In fact, I have a friend who's coming to see you, I think this week. And so we were looking at your Instagram page, and I said, Look at this transformation. And we were shocked. So what'd you say that that is? products or what? What changed? You? And what is what causes acne? First of all? And how were you? How were you able to go from a face that obviously was struggling to like such flawless looking skin now? Is that a product thing? Or what is your secret?
Chelsea (30:53):
It was a combination of a lot of things. Um, definitely skincare like that post that I had was kind of when I first started at glow. Oh, they hired me looking like that, I don't know. And then they got me on all of the products. So products for sure. Treatments and then hormones. So I also saw Kathie Tissington. At the time, our NP and my sister, she's a naturopathic doctor. And we kind of looked at my skin and decided that my IUD needed to come out, that the hormones that were in there weren't working for my body anymore, and that I needed to go back on to a birth control pill, and that everyone thinks it's always like estrogen has such a bad rap. And it actually wasn't the answer, I needed more estrogen, it was the progestin that I didn't my body didn't like.
Chelsea (31:45):
So we switched to that, and then basically met good medical grade skincare. It's so different from anything else that you can get on the market because it's treated like a medication. So the percentages of active ingredients are so high that they have to have a physician in the building even to carry it because we want to watch for things like side effects, make sure they're given to the right person and their skin. So working here really opened my eyes to all of that. And the biggest ingredient wise I would say would be things like salicylic acid, because they kill the bacteria and kill anything kind of deep in your bore. And retinal. So retinol basically increases the cell turnover of your skin and pushes new cells to the surface, which is also exactly what Accutane does. So Retinol is essentially a topical form of Accutane. But it's a lot easier when you're on your mind.
Tish (32:44):
Yeah, I tried and I know that I have to start taking retinol again. I just hate what temporary skin does initially, right? Yes. And so I, maybe you can touch upon that. I know that your space skills feel dry and readable. But that's the collagen, when your space is going through a healing process, which I believe you can explain this more. I just think you need to be patient with it. So what exactly is retinol? And what? And why do we as women, why do you as a professional in this industry really push it and everyone pushes it? And I've tried and I stopped taking it. Will I try again? Because it's always something that you're always encouraging. So what is it? And how much longer do I need to take it to actually see that it's doing what it's supposed to? Those sorts of things. Retinol is a big thing, isn't it?
Chelsea (33:44):
It is huge. Yeah, Retinol because it's great for everything. It honestly is for aging for acne, all of the above, because you're basically forcing your body to create brand new baby skin cells that are brand new and fresh and getting rid of all the old stuff. So in that process, yes, you can come with a little bit of redness, a little irritation. Some people, especially acne patients will experience a purge, which basically means they see an increase in breakouts, which is really frustrating for them. But it's basically like taking all of the breakouts that would have happened over a period of about six months, and just pushing them out all at once. So that these things were coming anyway, they were trapped deeper and deeper and deeper. And we're just shoving them all at once so that we can get those brand new skin cells to the surface. So I always recommend starting Retinol if you have to be super careful. Our goal is always to get you to a percentage that you can use every night but that's not what you're going to do at first ever.
Chelsea (34:49):
So I have one here I'll show you. So this is the VA 0.3 retinol complex, which is right there. So what's cool about this one is it's Mike ro encapsulated, which is super important. So a microencapsulated Retinol is the best type for someone like you Tish, who experiences redness and irritation, because it goes deeper into the skin before it starts to work. So instead of getting that big hit of retinol that someone might have experienced from even a prescription retinol from their doctor. This is encapsulated differently so it'll go deeper, start to work, and then you won't get that big hit of irritation on the skin. And then you can also mix this with moisturizer to break it down a little bit. I find that super helpful. And having hydration in your skin, some type of hyaluronic acid, a good moisturizer, growth factors. There's all kinds of things that can just prevent that redness and irritation.
Tish (35:50):
But it is something that's more important than I do know. Is it better to probably do that in the winter when you're not around the sun as often or does it matter or should you just really be doing metal all year round?
Chelsea (36:04):
Retinol is something you can do all year round. It's when you start doesn't matter so much as long as you're consistently wearing SPF. If you're going to start using retinol, you just have to have a good physical block sunscreen, because it does make you more photosensitive. But as far as when you're starting, you should also be wearing SPF in the winter, which a lot of people don't, but you should be wearing it every single day. So if you're doing that, it doesn't matter when you start. You just might experience, we're all a little drier in the winter. So if you're really worried about that you might want to start in the summer. But it is something that you should be using consistently each night and even if that means at a smaller percentage like everyone thinks they need to go to this 1% Huge amount of retinol. And it's just not necessary for most people. If you're seeing good results and you're only at a point three or point five and you're happy and you're tolerating it every single night then just leave it if it's doing its thing and it's doing its job, that's fine. Not everyone needs the 1%.
Tish (37:07):
Okay, I'm sold, I'm coming there and in a few weeks when I come I will purchase and I will share my experiences with the retinol because it and I'm going to be I will stick with it this time I promise. So talking about products, there are so many products I know that are pharmaceutical grade, there's a couple that you carry at glow and I actually see them at other clinics as well that are they seem like they're the best ones that you're consistently seeing from some of the higher end clinics now. I would love it if you could tell me what the best skincare would be, sort of like a morning routine and evening routine. If you have any products that you could show us this is going to be on YouTube as well. Just what how people would get started in like because I know there's like the eye creams and I know I literally I cannot fly on an airplane even if I'm going for one night with a carry on because of my products I'm the product crazy woman but that you know that's what I invest my I invest in that stuff. It's what I want to invest my money in. And so it doesn't matter if I'm going for a day, Neil's always like really a suitcase.
Tish (38:29):
We're going for one night but my products are in the suitcase. So I love my products but I would love to have an expert just give us sort of a rundown of what their favorites are what you would recommend for for people of all for all women, but maybe for sure maybe more even more specifically women who are maybe, you know approaching 40s and 50s and maybe want to watch we all are against that anti aging word right now I'm seeing that a lot on social media and like we're all aging let's fight it which combined is called anti aging. I'm not against that term. So I'm going to just use it to give you the best kind of products that you would suggest for several different things why you would suggest them. Daytime, nighttime if you have them sitting around. I would love to see what they look like.
Chelsea (39:18):
I got you Okay, so the way I'm going to organize this is basically start to finish the way you would apply them kind of AM and PM so perfectly. First one is our zero skin health. I just love their cleansers. We have so many good cleansers. The one that I use myself is the exfoliating cleanser because it has that salicylic acid in it to help with my acne. So anyone who's older would want to go with the hydrating cleanser.
Tish (39:44):
I have a hydrating one. Yes.
Chelsea (39:46):
So yeah, these are just amazing. You've never really felt like you've cleansed your face until you've actually used a good cleanser. It literally feels like you've the first time you've ever cleansed. Secondly is Everyone loves this. It's like a cult favorite glow is the exfoliating polish. So this good girl has little magnesium beads, tea tree oil, it just kind of is a good physical exfoliant. So it helps when you're actually experiencing dry skin you feel like moisture, moisture, moisture, you just want to moisturize your skin. But the moisture doesn't get through if there's a bunch of dead dry flakes on the surface of your skin. So we always say this is kind of like raking the leaves and then putting the sprinklers on. So that stuff is what this would do.
Tish (40:39):
I love that stuff. It's amazing. And a little bit goes so far and the smell is so refreshing. It just perks you up. I love that stuff. Such a good investment.
Chelsea (40:50):
Yes. Okay, so second would be a toner. Toning is really important. A lot of people skip that step. But it is important because it regulates the pH balance of your skin, and kind of preps the skin for all of the other expensive ingredients that you're going to put on there. So this one that I use is the complexion renewal pads by Xeo. So same thing, it has a little bit of salicylic acid lactic acid. This helps mainly with pore size, poor appearance, and oil control. Most women can handle this because it's not super strong. But if you are someone who especially likes tissues that are super dry, you could use a hydrating toner by Xeo as well. So those are other good.
Tish (41:36):
I use the 01, which I love. I've used it. I've had three of those now.
Chelsea (41:42):
That's amazing. Yeah. So secondly, this one's just daytime would be a good vitamin C. So Vitamin C is amazing for anti aging, it basically prevents your skin from free radicals in the air. So everything from wildfire smoke that we experienced in the summer, to pollutants that are always in the air, all of that stuff over time ages our skin. And this creates a little bit of a barrier and a brightening effect. So it comes in a little dropper and you just use like three to six drops a day. And it just prevents all of those things from aging your skin.
Tish (42:18):
And sorry, did you say just daytime for vitamin C?
Chelsea (42:22):
I like to do it just at a time because we're gonna use other things at night. Okay, and they're kind of more powerhouse ingredients that you don't want to be irritated by by adding more other stuff. Okay, Good. So, after vitamin C, I like to have some hydration. So I know that you love this test. We both are obsessed with this. This is the Ultimate edge. Yeah, by VA. What's cool about this is it's a hyaluronic acid gel, it feels very lightweight, but it's super moisturizing. It also has neuro peptides in it which are basically derivatives of Botox that are applied topically to the skin so nothing that you apply topically is ever going to work like true Botox, but it does help to slow the muscle contractions in your face. And then the hyaluronic acid plumps those blind fine lines so you'll find a really good anti aging effect just from fine lines and wrinkles by that ultimate product.
Tish (43:20):
It’s amazing. It is so good.
Chelsea (43:23):
Lastly, for daytime what I like to use as a daytime moisturizer for most women is the daily power defense. So this guy is loaded with antioxidants. super hydrating. It's just going to protect you, just overall amazing anti-aging in this guy. And most women are obsessed with this. It smells so good.
Tish (43:44):
I feel so good. It does. Yeah, but it doesn't have sunscreen in it.
Chelsea (43:50):
No. So that's Yeah, exactly. So that's the last step here for daytime is a good physical block sunscreens. So the difference between a chemical and a physical block is basically that zinc and titanium the rays will hit that and literally ricochet off like they do not penetrate your skin because there's almost like a little metal shield all over your face. Whereas chemicals don't quite do the same thing. So a lot of our stuff at glow is a physical block. So this one is my favorite right now. It's our Elta MD UV Clear tinted SPF 46 and it has zinc in it so zinc is what's gonna basically bounce those suckers right off your face. Keeps you Wow. Super protected from the rays. It's tinted and it's beautiful and it feels so good.
Tish (44:40):
Yeah, it also reminds me of the one I bought. It's in a pump. I think it must be from zero and it's tinted as well but it does it looks. That one looks a little bit thinner, like not as thick as the XO one but I really am impressed with how you first Put it on your face and it makes your face look a little bit white. And you're like, what is that? And then you let it sit and literally all that. Yeah. Is that what it's actually doing? Because I thought it was just my imagination.
Chelsea (45:13):
No, so it's specifically with the Xeo it's more of a primer feel it's literally called like the makeup primer sunscreen basically. So it's, it's a little bit more of that silicone II type of feel. And when you first put it on, I totally agree or when you even look at it, you're like, there's no way this is gonna blend. And then when you do that, basically just the heat from your face and everything just starts to melt it down. And it blends beautifully with most people. Yeah, we just love makeup days. This one is nice for the summer when you don't want to wear makeup at all. I find it's a lot more lightweight. It just feels like a lotion, which is kind of nice in the summer when you feel like you're going to be sweaty or Yeah.
Tish (45:56):
Or bold or Yeah, totally. Yeah.
Chelsea (46:00):
So nighttime, let's talk about nighttime. Nighttime is where all the good stuff comes in. Nighttime is very similar as far as your cleanser, your toner, hyaluronic acid, I'm, where it gets a little different is towards the end of the routine. So I like to use after so we would do our ultimate JD after all of the other steps.
Tish (46:26):
I do ultimate both morning and evening too.
Chelsea (46:29):
So it's good. I agree. Then what I like to have people do is a retinol. So like we talked about doing the retinol, that's microencapsulated would be a really good option for anyone who's brand new to retinol. And specifically, if you get this one from us, or glow anti aging shop.com It'll come with a retinol card that always gives you very clear instructions on how to use it, how to incorporate it into your routine because you don't just start it and use it every single night. You're going to start with maybe once a week and then start to add a night every week until you can kind of tolerate it every night, which is a key component that a lot of people don't do right. Then after that what I like people to use as a little bit of a barrier is growth factor. This is another like cult Fave we sell a million in one of these things. It is basically a nighttime moisturizing type of feel. That basically tells your DNA in your skin to go back to what it was when you were like seven pounds seven ounces sweet baby child. So it sells like hotcakes. It's amazing. It feels so good. Growth factors are just super important anti aging ingredients. So anyone that is concerned about anti-aging growth factors is huge. So definitely look into those.
Tish (47:56):
It's funny you talk about growth factors. I have a growth factor because when I did the Vampire Facial, you put it on my skin the Vampire Facial basically leaves you your skin quite raw. And you put the saline on my Vampire Facial and she put the growth factor on my face after and immediately went from feeling so incredibly hostile on my face to completely calm as the best way to describe it. My skin just calmed right down. I thought literally my face was going to feel like it was on fire, a growth factor. Calm, I felt nothing. And a lot of the redness went away instantly. And so they gave me a little sample to use for a few days because it is expensive. And they just like to just try it, see if you like it. And then if you like it Come and buy some Well, within day three, I was coming in and buying it you were sold out actually. So I had to wait of course a week. But it is something that is in my cupboard, I treat myself to it. I don't put it on my face every night. I try to do it a couple nights a week. Just because it is pretty pricey. But again, I always believe you get what you pay for in everything. And so I and the other thing I love about it is like it gives you like you just push the top and the product comes out of the little hole. So you Yeah, and then you just basically take your finger and there's absolutely no product that gets wasted. But yeah, that is one of my favorites, too. It's a specialty lotion. I love that. Totally. Yeah. It's when you ask for Santa, you ask for Santa for that one rare stocking stuffer.
Chelsea (49:41):
That's what's nice about most medical grade products actually, is that this, the scientists and the teams that have made all of these products have basically decided exactly what you need to use is what's going to come out of either one pump, or a push or if there's anything different I'll say it right on the bottle so there's no right to work with, which is really cool. Like 100% Every, use any of these, it's exactly the amount that you need. Good Poyo honestly, I want to talk to you about eye cream and neck cream because I feel like anti-aging is so important. So one of our best selling iframes is the TNS I repair and you can use this morning and night. This guy's by Skin Medica. We love it because there's basically a very, very gentle whisper of retinol that is safe around the eyes to increase that cell turnover without irritating your skin. And then there's brightening ingredients like vitamin C.
Chelsea (50:37):
So anyone who really struggles with, dark circles darkness under their eyes, this will literally change your life. It's insane the difference in a couple of months. There's some before and afters on my Instagram that you guys can look at too. But okay, really great product. Then our new line, which we're obsessed with, and I'm probably going to get you hooked on it to Tish, you just haven't seen me since but, is the last one. So this new line of ours is absolutely incredible. It was basically founded by the same guy who made SkinMedica and all the formulations for them. And he met up with a wound healing doctor that was trained in UCLA and was treating a lot of burn victims and creating a lot of inventions for wound healing. And they came together and kind of brainstormed how they could make a skincare line that would increase collagen and elastin. What's different, all of these products do that most of them, their goal is to increase collagen and elastin on some level.
Chelsea (51:38):
And what's different about this guy is that if you look at the skin, there's these little collagen and elastin trees that are trying to basically grow and attach and then plump the skin. But as we age, there's a couple that get there and they might attach and then they die. And there's a bunch of kind of like broken little guys that are kind of crowding the space so that new ones can't attach. So what's different about a lawston is that it actually gets rid of all of the dead debris first so that new collagen and elastin can grow and actually attach and start to clump your skin. So we see a huge difference with this one. And their neck product is one of our favorites. It's called trihex Technology is the technology that they use. And you can use the same thing morning and night. It comes in the prettiest bottle. And yeah, if you don't start working on your neck before it bugs you, I find like it's one of those areas that it will come for everybody. And it happens quite rapidly all of a sudden.
Tish (52:47):
Exactly. For those of you who are just listening, I just took my hair and hid my neck. I'm kidding, I'm fine with my neck, but I'm definitely going to buy some of that stuff.
Chelsea (53:02):
on using it and we text each other every day. We're like, what were other parts of our body? Can we put this stuff?
Tish (53:09):
That's awesome. Wow, that is amazing. If you know, it's funny, I have all the products and sometimes I forget the order, and the ones that are supposed to go in the morning and some of and so this has been good. Thank you. I'll make sure that I do because my order is very important, right? Like you want to go from thinner ingredients to more of a thicker ingredient. But the order is important, isn't it?
Chelsea (53:31):
Absolutely. So yeah, like you said, the Venice to Focus feeling is a good kind of general rule. Because if you put something on that's really thick, the something that's thin and a smaller molecular kind of shape isn't going to be able to penetrate through that. So this thickness to Focus is always a good general rule that way all your products are penetrating and getting the most out of them.
Tish (53:53):
Awesome. Okay. Well, I don't want to take the last few minutes to talk about treatments. I have had the vampire treatment and love it. It's not as bad as it looks. It looks scarier than it really was when I did it. I actually did a video of it and put it on my website. If any of you are interested, you can go on my blog on my website and actually see what the procedure is and what happened. But I've had that one done. I've had a couple of things they don't even know what I'm talking about. And now we're leading into November and I have been given very strict guidelines from you and from I forget what is the lovely new nurse, Emily is the girl that's been doing my treatments in Kelowna. Love her. And so very strict from both of you saying you're not allowed to do some of these treatments until November when the sun is not as strong. And so I'm really getting excited about some of the new things and I'm going to start implementing in November and I know there's going to be some downtime. So just quickly, what are your top faves? What do they do? And then I can make some notes. Yeah.
Chelsea (55:05):
Add to the wish list. Yeah. The first one is the one that you were just discussing about sun damage and pigmentation. That's exactly why this place is so hoppin right now. During the summer, we have to take a little bit of a hiatus from most of those lasers because we can't treat pigmentation while you're tanned. So a lot of us now are out of the sun. We're not in the sun as much. And BBL season is kind of starting so BBL stands for Broadband Laser Light. And it basically sees melanin in the skin. Or if say you're dealing with rosacea, it'll see the hemoglobin in the skin that provides those different colors, reds, or Browns to the skin, and literally zap them away. It's like a magic eraser. It's one of our favorite treatments, if you're looking for just one color, skin tone, that's the treatment that you need. Okay. And then otherwise, tightening, I want to talk about two, I feel like a lot of the people that follow you would really enjoy infine.
Chelsea (56:08):
So infine is RF microneedling. microneedling is great for anyone from like 20 to 35, it does enough for texture, and it's nice and little downtime, anyone over about the age of 35 needs to kind of amp it up with either RF on its own or RF microneedling. So the difference basically is that with infine, we can go deeper into the skin. And when we are once we're in the skin at a deep level, we also have these radio frequency waves through the skin that stimulate collagen and elastin on three different levels. So it's like microneedling on steroids. So nothing will tighten your skin. Anyone dealing with creepiness, feeling like they're just not tight like they used to be. Infine is definitely the treatment for them, and comes with probably 48 hours of feeling red. And there's no pain once your treatments are over, you're completely fine. You just need to be makeup free for about 24 hours. And then you're good to go. So I love that treatment. It's one of my favorites.
Tish (57:16):
I assume that basically it is just general treatments. When someone comes in to see you, I would assume there would be some kind of form of a consultation, you talk about sort of what the patient's concerns are, and then you from there would obviously decide what their best treatments would be. It's kind of hard to make specific suggestions on a podcast like this, It's that how you typically do it is usually do some sort of consultation beforehand.
Chelsea (57:46):
Yeah, absolutely. Before you go ahead and book any type of treatment, you definitely need to come in and get a skin consult done. And the reason being is that we need to see what skin type you are. There are certain treatments that aren't safe for certain skin types and can leave you with things like hyperpigmentation. So we don't want to be doing that to anybody or letting them down that they can't get the treatment that they booked. So I'm funny. I'm actually in our consulting room right now.
Tish (58:14):
It's so beautiful there. Yeah. So bright and clean.
Chelsea (58:18):
Yes. So that's our Visio machine. What machine? What is that machine? Yeah, this one is our vizier, or Visio skin analysis, which is amazing. Oh, we basically put your face in there. And we take pictures of your skin. And it'll give us a lot of information that we can't see with the naked eye. So things like underlying melasma, which is a skin condition that would change our treatment plan for you. Things like oil production, bacteria on the surface of the skin that we can't see to the naked eye. And it gives us this readout and kind of tells us the path of your skin, where it's going, what kind of chronological age it's sitting at, and how we can basically improve your skin. So those are always free with all of our skin consults. So anyone that comes gets one and it just gets us a really clear picture of how we can best serve you and your skin.
Tish (59:12):
Oh, wow, I had no idea. Okay, that's amazing. And what is that machine called?
Chelsea (59:18):
It's called a Vizio skin analysis. Okay, awesome.
Tish (59:21):
That kind of makes your job a little bit easier as well, if you can really see what's going on. And what is a more cellular level? Is that what happens or?
Chelsea (59:30):
Yeah, it basically takes photos with a whole bunch of different lights and different levels of the skin. And it's cool because we can also use it to track your progress. So sometimes people feel like they might not be, seeing results right away. We stick them under the vizier and we can literally look at the difference on a cellular level of their skin, how much younger they are, how much pigmentation that's underneath that's disappeared, bacteria, oil, all that stuff. So it's really fun to have And then to look back on when you've come so far to see how your skin has actually changed. It's amazing.
Tish (1:00:05):
Yeah, that's huge and people like to see that what they're investing in is actually getting them results. It's just like training. If you don't input your progress How do you know how much stronger you're improving right? The same thing with your skin which is just kind of nice makes your job a little bit easier too. Because people forget where they started right in any place, skin and fitness. They forget their start point. So to have comparisons it's pretty cool to be able to do that on your skin too. Amazing. Thank you so much, Chelsea. Now Chelsea you are on let me know all of your social media feeds you are so fun to follow. She has all of the up to date, newest and greatest products. She shares a lot of awesome things on her site. So Chelsea, what are your Instagram, it'll also be underneath the podcast to be able to click on them all. And then also the glow anti aging shopping center will also be put under there. I know that that was an off the I've spoke to Carrie during the lockdowns and she could not keep up with the shot like the shopping that was happening online when and it was great. I was so happy to hear that at least that part of the business was doing well. So what are those links? What is your profile just so people can hear them but also click underneath to have that accessible for them.
Chelsea (1:01:37):
On Instagram you can find me asking for the lip girl all one word. And then we also have glow anti aging on Instagram, all one word and glow anti aging youth lab as well. And then our shop is a glowing staging shop. And if you're lucky enough, we'll probably have a code for you for Tish that you guys can use on so awesome.
Tish (1:01:59):
I was hoping you'd say something like that. Okay, well, Chelsea, I honestly could sit here and talk to you. For another hour, at least someday I'll be like Joe Rogan. And I'll be doing a three hour podcast. But until then let's stick this to an hour, I know that you would probably like to enjoy the rest of your day off. And so we'll stay in touch. I'll see you in a few weeks. Thank you so much for some of your suggestions. And everyone, make sure you check out the links underneath this podcast to get in touch with Chelsea to find out all the products that you may want to try out and all the treatments you want to try out. And if you have any questions, glow anti aging is the place to go. I have been to many and they are by far superior. And that that is not an opinion. That is just something that I'm very comfortable sharing. So Chelsea, thank you so much. Is there anything else that I haven't missed that you'd like to share quickly? Oh, you did? Amazing.
Chelsea (1:02:59):
We'll definitely have to do this again sometime.
Tish (1:03:01):
I know. I absolutely do. I know. Yeah, we will. And a lot of women have so many questions for me. So I'll make sure that I write them down. And so when we have you on again, we will make sure that those questions are answered. Until then enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you for tuning into my podcast, and we will talk to you soon. Hey, thank you so much for listening to today's episode. I hope that it leaves you feeling inspired and motivated and ultimately happier. Don't forget to check out my website, trainwithTish.com To learn more about me and the services that I provide. I also train you for free. If you just check out the link underneath this podcast. I look forward to the next episode. Until then, live happily, be well and tell someone today that you love them.